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Facing our Fears with Justin Schleider – PTE028

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How a Physical Education Teacher confronts his fear about The Other – Refugees. 

Plus, realizing our privilege and using it for good in our classroom and online.  



Show Guest – Justin SchleiderFacing our fears with Justin Schleider

Justin is an elementary Physical Education and Health Teacher in New Jersey, USA.  

Episode Summary

In this episode, Transformative Moments:  the moments where you come to face to face with a stark realization – that changes how you see yourself – your life and the world around you.

And life from hereon – is different – if you choose to make it so.

That’s what happened to our guest, Justin Schleider – who comes to realize his privilege as a White, Straight, Middle Class Educator.

But that’s not all – We’re also talking Fear – Fear of The Other – in this case: Refugees seeking asylum in our countries. 

It’s a fear – that has Justin facing his own family history. 

And of course, we’ve also got the Lightning Round – Where Justin issues me a challenge – on the brevity front – as we push the edges of Money, Discomfort, Growth Mindset, and being a white educator.

Plus we ponder – can we ever stop being educators?

Note: There are occasional problems with the audio quality in this interview due to the Skype recording. My apologies on that front.

Episode Run-Down

  • How Justin Pushes the Edge (2:09)
  • How Justin came to branch out beyond what’s normal for him (2:51)
  • How Justin came to realize his privilege & began stepping out beyond it (6:30)
  • Learning to keep our mouths shut (8:55)
  • Learning, reading, conversing, and finding out more (11:24)
  • Facing conflict online – Justin’s experience and how he responded(14:10)
  • ‘One Word Fear’ | Justin confronts his fear of refugees seeking asylum (18:14)
  • Justin connects to his grandparents’ story and The Holocaust(21:48)
  • Why Justin published his post about his fear (23:03)
  • How Justin teaches about difference in Health Classes (25:56)
  • How reaching out beyond what’s familiar has benefited Justin and his students (28:34)
  • The Lightning Round – White Educator, Money, Discomfort, Growth Mindset, White Privilege, Ever Stop Being a Teacher (32:01)
  • Justin’s parting thoughts on the ‘hidden curriculum’ and teaching about difference and empathy (36:52)

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